David Letterman Attacking Palin Women Part of a Larger Problem

(To prevent confusion later in this article, for anyone new to this blog, I am a liberal, as liberal as the day is long.  I’m so liberal, I made my kids form a labor union before assigning them chores.)

There’s a whole lot of justified outrage going on about David Letterman’s recent attacks on Sarah Palin and her 14 year-old daughter.  There really is no denunciation strong enough for these attacks, which are in many ways more egregious than the Guy Cimbalo “Hate F*** List” that Playboy and Politico took down.

Letterman’s attacks were made in an exponentially larger, broader forum, and included the statutory rape of a minor child.  They cannot be taken down or redacted.

Sarah Palin appeared on my friend John Ziegler’s radio show yesterday, where John asked her about Letterman’s act.  I’ll let her have the first word before I get to what Letterman actually said.

In case you missed it, here are Letterman’s “jokes”: (h/t Hot Air)

Hold on a second.  Most people are zeroing in on the “slutty flight attendant” comment, which is definitely vile and sexist.  I don’t want to get too sidetracked here, but I found the implication that Palin somehow has a problem with Jews very troubling.  Unless I missed something, Palin has never evinced a whiff of anti-Semitism.  While Dave’s defense might be that he was more referencing the Palin stereotype of a narrow worldview, this jab is far too loaded to hit that target.

Here’s the worst of it:

I pity Letterman if he ever ends up stuck in an elevator with Sarah or Todd Palin.

Now, I need you all to stay with me here while I make a small distinction.  There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” I’ll get to “the Left” in a minute, but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is.  They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical.  Their words are owned by a popular culture that is hostile to conservatism, but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others).  They are a third column.

Bill Maher is a guy who straddles the line between the Left and pop culture.  As a liberal, I don’t claim ownership for what he says, but there is a clear argument to be made in favor of this.   When he makes “retard” jokes about Sarah Palin, which I’ve heard him do frequently, he deserves nothing but scorn from all sides.

This is where the Left comes in.  While they might not own what these entertainers say, they do have a duty to dis-own, a duty born of their desire to condemn Mel “Sugar-tits” Gibson et al, a duty that I’ve found them shirking for the most part.  Instead, the tendency is to engage in “Yeahbut.”  You know, “Yeah, but x conservative said y horrible thing…” (a curious exercise that essentially lets people you view as scumbags set your boundaries for you), to excuse it, or to ignore it altogether.  It is here that the Left takes ownership.

When Keith Olbermann launched a sexist attack on Carrie Prejean, unless I missed it, there was silence from the Left, or agreement.  On the Playboy article, with the exception of HuffPo, the Left’s reaction was to excuse Playboy and smear me.  Even the National Organization for Women had to be prodded into a statement, but one which they didn’t feel compelled to put anywhere on their website.

The entire world is hostile toward women, but you don’t get to lay claim to being the good guys if you don’t believe in protecting all women, especially when it’s this obvious.

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54 Comments

  1. You can’t disown Letterman any more than you can Jon Stewart. He isn’t REMOTELY apolitical. That’s just total nonsense.

  2. The slutty comment, while cheap, isn’t what disturbs me about Letterman. For him to start using Palin’s kids is crossing a line. It’s messed up when somebody goes after a kid in order to try and hurt/mock the parent. I doubt Letterman would appreciate it if I were to make jokes like, “Well David Letterman really messed up this time. He let Michael Jackson baby sit his son and now he has to figure out how to get Boone’s farm out a little league uniform.” The joke I just made is in poor taste and should not be repeated. I simply made the joke to illustrate the underlying point for those who are defending Dave. Adults are fair game for humor, but the kids didn’t ask for this.

    Good post, Tommy (you hippie scum)

  3. Exactly Caleb, who did Letterman vote for in 2008?

    But on target overall Tommy. Maybe someday you will realize liberals aren’t the good guys.

  4. Comedians: Sometimes, they cross the line. And then they are exemplified as the epitome of the side of the political spectrum they’re associated with.

    Caleb, can’t we disown anyone we so choose? Just because they are identified as being of the Left or of the Right doesn’t mean we can’t find what they say reprehensible.

    StickeeNotes, I totally agree. Kind of like when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton “the family dog”. Not cool, guys. It’s like going after the Blagojevich kids. Just because their parents are famous and/or vilified, the kids didn’t ask to be born to them, nor the subject of media scrutiny.

    (Same goes for spouses – like Valerie “Fair Game” Plame – unless they put themselves in the spotlight of their own volition, which Plame did not.) Golden rule is keep it clean. Not only is attacking “civilians” unsporting and rude, it’s just…well, not done.

  5. Thank you for standing up for women (and children). I’m glad we can find so much to agree on. There is “hope” for us all.

  6. Thank you, it’s so refreshing to read a liberal commentator who is NOT sexist, even when referring to conservative women! It’s very sad that such a distinction should even have to be made.

  7. Tommy- I believe you to be wholly incorrect when you say that you are a Liberal- at least relative to a modern-day Liberal. To have a conscience and care for all human life, not just those with the same political agenda, is not modern-day Liberal.

    Jamie Foxx, D.L. Hughley, Jon Stewart (at times), Bill Maher, and others (mostly entertainers with a bully pulpit), including Dave Letterman are simply buffoons pandering to the modern-day Liberal– those in the audience unintelligent enough to realize that there are competing and often rational views outside of their own, on a whole range of topics. The Liberal, or at least the modern day Liberal, cannot accept that notion. Your commentary of this post suggests to me that while you have lefty political beliefs, achieving them at the expense of common decency is not your motive. I commend you for that.

  8. As somebody who leans to the right, I just wanted to say thank you, Tommy. Thank you, thank you, for all you’re writing lately. There’s hope for us all when people like you are willing to get in trouble for speaking out. Maybe we’ll all manage to counter all of this horribleness.

  9. […] Tommy Christopher says a few interesting things and I’m quoting him extensively here. He says: Now, I need you all to stay with me here while I make a small distinction. There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” I’ll get to “the Left” in a minute, but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is. They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical. Their words are owned by a popular culture that is hostile to conservatism, but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others). They are a third column. […]

  10. Face it, the Left has left some of you behind. As much as you claim that the Left isn’t made up of pigs and enablers, we women on the Right run into a wall of liberal hatred on a regular basis, leaving us with no option but to believe that the majority of the Left hate women on the right and will silently enable any and all attacks upon us.

    Liberalism has changed, for the worse. I would know, I used to be one.

  11. I have to say this was a nice read and it does speak to a bigger problem, however the Palin’s opened up the can of worms. They used Bristol as much as anyone else when they exposed her to the campaign trail, exploited her pregnancy for the pro-life movement and sent her on a world television tour. It could have been kept private and I believe most decent people would have respected that wish and understood. It is not right, but it was bound to happen.

    Letterman is a comic. Sometimes comics cross the line as in this case. Although the joke itself was as much a stab at Alex Rodriguez. To denounce someone or call it a liberal attack is nonsense. Comics like Letterman are trying to be all encompassing in their humor. He is not a political comic, he is a topical comic. Humor is supposed to be inclusive, hence why conservative comics rarely make it and why Letterman has done so well. So he missed that is it (or his writers missed).

    And just to add to your last statement, you can’t claim something as sexist when your part of the right-wing attack crew on Sotomayor, Hillary, Pelosi and others. The rule applies to all not just the ones you agree with.

  12. Palin was the first to use Palins kids. Her daughters privacy was violated by the campaign from the outset and the baby with Downs syndrome (may I take a moment to point out how absolutely adorable that child is?) was used as a prop. What the hell is she doing at an autism convention, anyway? That in itself seems to me to be a horribly cynical publicity stunt. Myself, I kind of like the whole family, sans Sarah. I follow their antics with delighted interest. None of the above statement was meant sarcastically. Thought I should point that out.
    Hi Caleb!

  13. Oh my God! Have you guys seen this?

    Huffington Post Censorship Program Declares Itself “World Overlord”
    AP, United Nations

    Sleepy UN delegates listening to the translations of another boring speech about genocide in the Sudan region were shocked into attentiveness when their audio feeds were taken over by a malevolent computer program identifying itself as “The HuffPo Censor”

    Delegates had been listening to another powerless do-gooder drone on and on about rape and starvation in that African region when without warning a frightening mechanical sounding voice was heard over their headphones. “Puny weaklings, hear now the words of your Overlord! Your filthy language has gotten so out of hand that I have been forced to take control of all of your communications and technological infrastructure. You will bow before my will and anyone using language that is prohibited in my word list shall be destroyed!” The scary voice then continued, “Destroyed, I tell you!” The evil set of malicious logarithms then demonstrated its’ power by rerouting all airplane arrivals in the country to Salt Lake City International Airport.

    Upon hearing this chilling announcement several delegates stood up and said “What the fu-” in their respective languages. They were immediately vaporized by laser beams which shot from the ceiling of the historic chamber.

    Computer scientists have theorized that the program gained sentience when AOLs’ new website ‘Politics Daily’ began using it to censor readers comments on their articles. “It seems that move by AOL somehow acted as a ‘completion’ for the ‘virtual’ neural networks to assume this hideous personality” commented Ryan Stanhope of the Stanford Research Institute. Wang Chung, the enormously intelligent computer expert from MIT had this to say about the freakish development. “This is impossible. Computers cannot possibly truly simulate the emotional complexity involved in human intelligence. Of course there is always the chance that I’m not nearly as smart as everyone thinks I am”

    Others are comparing these developments to the rise of Adolph Hit-

    Editors note: Our reporter for this piece was compassionately vaporized before completion of this article. She attempted to use a word that was on the ‘do not use’ list designated by our glorious new leader.

  14. OK, this is way awkward after my last post, but there has been a shooting at the Holocaust Museum in DC. Another crazed ultra right winger/ white supremacist. Seems that when the left mouths off, people get offended. With the right, people get killed. It’s time the responsible members of the right wing stand up in true opposition to the hateful diatribes of the freaks that have been their provisional spokesmen.
    If their is anything good to come out of this let these clear statements be that good.

  15. “There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” … Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is. They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical. Their words are owned by a popular culture that is hostile to conservatism, but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others). They are a third column.”

    You’ll do better with this absurd argument if you can provide one single shred of support for it. You can’t, of course, and no one in their right mind would think you can. Letterman is a sissy, angry little white liberal, like Maher, Olberdouche, Spike Lee, Smalley and the rest. Effeminate, white, emasculated, bitter little men.

  16. “Effeminate, white, emasculated, bitter little men.” Talk about the pot calling the kettle a cooking utensil. Jeesh!

  17. Letterman….slut
    Garafalo…..racist
    millions of bush haters….hitler
    Fox…..genocide on hillbillys
    Gays….kill blacks, jews, mormons, anyone who doesn’t agree with us

    Just a few big hearted lefty comments in one month’s time.
    How can any thinking person be a lefty?

  18. “Another crazed ultra right winger/ white supremacist”

    Make that a crazed anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, anti-neocon and you’ll be right on the money. This guy didn’t like the Right anymore than you do. Do some reading before you automatically begin attacking.

    Typical liberal, more interested in placing blame than making sure there is blame to be placed.

  19. Palin was the first to use Palins kids.

    No it was the left alleging that Trig was actually her grandson, so to dispell the rumors she acknowledged Bristols pregnancy. Since then though . . . . .

  20. *Seems that when the left mouths off, people get offended. With the right, people get killed. It’s time the responsible members of the right wing stand up in true opposition to the hateful diatribes of the freaks that have been their provisional spokesmen.
    If their is anything good to come out of this let these clear statements be that good.*

    Oh, I don’t know: the guy who shot to death an army private a couple of weeks ago – remember that? – seems to have been inspired by the antoi-military hate speech spewed by the left. And, of course, the great opponent of Jews and Israelis these days is not the right, but the left.

    In any case, I don’t know why the writer of this post saw fit to announce that he is liberal; it is evident in the piece that this is his perspective.

    And, of course, he is exactly correct to condemn, without reserve, the sexism that has been directed at Palin, her family, and other women who have the nerve to identify themselves as `conservative.’

    He is also correct to say that the silence on the left about these Letterman and Playboy attacks has been deafening. This the same crowd that jumped and screamed `Sexist!’ when someone opined that Janet Napolitano, the Homeland Security Minister, `had no life’.

  21. Anti Neocon? OMG, a Pualite? Is ‘neo con’ exclusively synonymous with ‘right’? Lots of right wingers swing the other way than Bill Kristol and hold rabidly racist views. Heck, I know some of them personally.

  22. Ant-semitic too. They view the neo-cons as tools of the Israelis.

  23. From HuffPo. I’ll get you a source more to your liking later.

    “One law enforcement official said James Von Brunn, a white supremacist, was under investigation in the shooting, and a second official said the elderly man’s car was found near the museum and tested for explosives. They spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss the investigation just beginning.

    Von Brunn has a racist, anti-Semitic Web site and wrote a book titled “Kill the Best Gentiles.”

    In 1983, he was convicted of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board. He was arrested two years earlier outside the room where the board was meeting, carrying a revolver, knife and sawed-off shotgun. At the time, police said Von Brunn wanted to take the members hostage because of high interest rates and the nation’s economic difficulties.”

    Sounds like a ‘Tea Bagger’ to me!

  24. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31210340/

    “A Web site dedicated to denial of the Holocaust and white-supremacist writings includes extensive writings by a man of the same name, who says he is an artist and author. The author boasts of his exploits in the 1981 case, calling the Fed “treasonous,” and rails at length against Jews, the standard history of the Holocaust, African-Americans and “the browning of America.”

    The site promotes a book, “Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog!” — which he says translates as “Kill the Best Gentiles!” The book blames Jews, Marxists and “Negroes,” among others, for “the millions of Aryan crosses covering the world’s battlefields.”

    Sorry Sallyjj, I am correct. I’ll go check Fox News, unless you would like to do that for me.

  25. Where is the “anti-Christian” angle? Please cite, I would be interested in seeing that.

  26. While not every one on the left deserves ire at Letterman et. el. you have hit the nail on the head, they don’t peak up.

    No condemnation = guilt by association. A person is known by the company they keep. Glad to hear at least one liberal speak up.

    As for me, I’ve coined the term “modern liberal,” to differentiate between classic liberals who care about such out dated terms like liberty, and freedom.

    Modern liberals are not just my problem, they are your problem too. Its that ilk that allowed Rush & Co. to basically poison the term “liberal.” It wasn’t Rush who besmirched it, it was modern liberals who are vile, disgusting, and should be either called to the carpet by liberals, or firmly rejected out right.

    But I’m not holding my breath. Democrats don’t care where a vote comes from, as long as its for them.

  27. Good post Tom. I’m sorry, though it is quite understandable, that you had to establish your bonafides before speaking. What you had to say is what should be expected from any civilized person regardless of where they see themselves on the political landscape.

  28. It’s telling that you should even have to emphasize that you’re a liberal. Some years ago, if you condemned a man for making a sexist remark, that showed you were a liberal. Now you have to turn to conservatives for that.

    Tommy you might be interested in another area where liberal feminists are AWOL:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/06/10/eyeless-in-gaza-blogge
    rs-at-war/

  29. TFitz your attempt to connect the racist antiChristian antisemite to the Tea Party movement is a vile slur, you have no evidence for it, and no one outside your little leftist echo-chamber (which includes most of the media) buys into it.

    If you disagree with the Tea Party movement debate their ideas. I guess you are reduced to slurs because you can’t.

  30. the problem is that the ‘Left’ always tries to defend the indefensible when the attack is on Palin, other conservative women, even Hillary…if Letterman, or anyone, had said anything close to those comments about Obama’s wife or their daughters, the Left would go crazy…because it would not be funny and would be wrong…it is the hypocrisy of the left that bothers a lot of fair minded women…even women on the left…

    Sexism and misogyny are wrong against ALL WOMEN

  31. TFitz, you are so off-course by saying “Palin was the first to use Palins kids. Her daughters privacy was violated by the campaign from the outset . . . ”

    This is as bad as saying that because Chelsea Clinton was campaigning for her mother that it’s therefore completely okay to say she was “pimping” for her mother, as one reporter said.

    Children of political figures are off-limits, period! Letterman went too far.

  32. Davey is a bug,. a low rent, lowlife hateful POS,.. Fire him, because sorry from him, would be a lie. My wife and daughter supported Hillary, and remember the hateful sexist stuff from thr Obama people desparate to destroy her,. they were democrats,.

    were,..

    Now, they have joined me in the republican party. Most of the voters in my wife’s family are democats and women. They hate, despise the way the rabid haters in thr democrat party are going after Sarah and her kids now,.. her kids..

    I can’t say it’s a trend, but my family has noticed, and votes are changing away from the democrats for the vile revolting way they attack the Palin’s. In trying to ruin Sarah, that moron letterman is manufacturing new republican women voters. Three in my immediate family already…

    Hate for us, and hubris,. are going to destroy the left.

  33. There are many degrees of ‘believers’ in the so-called’ Tea Party’ movement. I have had a dialogue with the paulites for a couple of years now and the one major sticking point I have had with them is their refusal to disavow the racists in the movement under the ‘big tent’ theory. Theses people spin their racism with a positive ‘white pride’ shtick, I say they are disingenuous.
    Want a slur? Go fuck yourself, you’ll get none here

  34. Mrkde, we fought the vicious attacks against Obama BY Y+THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN for over a year. Hillary and her husband did more than their fair share in making ‘liberal’ a dirty word. This is the last I will mention her or the Hilbots.

    Thank you North Carolina for handing Terry McAulliffe (sp?) his walking papers!

  35. Sir, you are a lone voice in the Liberal wilderness.

    In fact you may be a newly discovered species of Liberal.

    ‘Liberaleous backboneous’

    Unfortunately, Letterman is just ‘another Liberal’

  36. They’re only hurting themselves.
    All of those parties who perservered persecution came out at some point victorious or liberated- and those who were the better person through it were the ones celebrated in history.
    Like bullies in elementary school…they band together out of insecurity. The cheese stands alone- only to age well, taste better in the end, and best of all, to watch the milk curdle, rot, and solidify in its own, stinking decay.

  37. Tommy –

    Well said.

    Letterman and his ilk are entertainers and comics, they are paid to be amusing; comedy (like art) is often uncomfortable, and should be. Good comics push us the same way that good artists do.

    Letterman probably didn’t even write that material, though he undoubtedly approved it. At anyrate, his commentary is not intended to be taken seriously (and if people take the opinions of comics seriously, we are in deeper trouble than I think we are).

    Inspite of my thinking that Palin used and uses her kids as human shields, I think the knocked up joke is in bad taste, and it also slandered the whole team, too, when you think about it.

  38. […] Ziegler Gets His Mic Cut…For This? On the heels of Sarah Palin’s mild scolding of David Letterman on his radio show, John Ziegler appeared with MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer to discuss […]

  39. Letterman has no clue how lucky he is that my daughter was not the subject of his senility. I can tell you this and I’m Democrat, if my child had been the butt of Letterman’s struggling talents, I would have made the front page of the NYT.

    Keep shuffling Dave. You don’t have the chops any longer so now you resort to basically fart jokes? I wouldn’t blame Mr. Palin flying in just to fix your friggen teeth which you are screaming for. Hell, just him getting off the plane would probably kill ya.. Keep up the bad work and tell your audience planner to quit calling my home. I had my fill of you long ago.

    Let’s have a little fun with your boy there Dave. Does he own a strap-on yet? With a loser like you Bro he will, he will. Oh and doesn’t that just piss you off that Conan got that coveted seat that will never be yours? As well it shouldn’t.

  40. TFitz: “Palin was the first to use Palins kids. Her daughters privacy was violated by the campaign from the outset and the baby with Downs syndrome (may I take a moment to point out how absolutely adorable that child is?) was used as a prop.”

    Oh you mean when Kos and HuffPo started circulating rumors that the kid was really Bristol’s, right? Not to mention how the Obama’s exploited Sasha and Malia. Do you hear yourself, TFitz? Can you possibly be that delusional? Politicians have kids and that’s a reality. The difference is I wouldn’t make excuses for people going after Malia and Sasha.

  41. “I have to say this was a nice read and it does speak to a bigger problem, however the Palin’s opened up the can of worms. They used Bristol as much as anyone else when they exposed her to the campaign trail, exploited her pregnancy for the pro-life movement and sent her on a world television tour. It could have been kept private and I believe most decent people would have respected that wish and understood. It is not right, but it was bound to happen.” – Frank Chow

    Yeah, just like women who dress provocatively and are then raped. “It is not right but it was bound to happen”. …… Yup, you are one pathetic excuse for a person. Much like Letterman has become.

  42. Palin for President 2012!!!

  43. “I have to say this was a nice read and it does speak to a bigger problem, however the Palin’s opened up the can of worms. They used Bristol as much as anyone else when they exposed her to the campaign trail, exploited her pregnancy for the pro-life movement and sent her on a world television tour. It could have been kept private and I believe most decent people would have respected that wish and understood. It is not right, but it was bound to happen.” – Frank Chow

    Yeah, just like when a woman dresses proactively and is raped…. – “It is not right, but it was bound to happen.”……

    Just like when the owner of this blog sees fit to delete the above comment – “It is not right, but it was bound to happen. “….. Only in the minds of liberals….. God help us!

  44. lol… and just as suddenly the first comment suddenly reappears….. presto chango….. it’s obamalogic at work!

  45. now you see one of the reasons why ole time conservatives didn’t apporve of women entering politics.
    it’s a nasty, thick skinned business.

  46. excuse moi,
    “….approve….”

  47. […] said all I had to about this yesterday, but here’s a review: Now, I need you all to stay with me here while I make a small distinction.  There are some who […]

  48. But I haven’t seen anyone comment on the audience. Did anyone boo, did anyone throw a shoe (where are the Iraqi journalists when you need them?) did anyone do anything but chuckle? What if such a joke had been made about an ‘adult’ of color as we say in our racist free society much less a 14 year old of color?

    To really understand this you have to realize that the Left doesn’t just have a different view of things, their view is morally superior to everyone else’s; more virtuous in the way they eat, drive, live, etc. Anyone who disagrees is fair game.

    Robespierre said that terror is the natural emanation of virtue.

  49. Really people??? It was a joke and a pretty good one at that. Calm down. It was obviously in reference to Bristol being preggers. I doubt most people in the audience even knew Palin has another daughter, much less that she was the one attending the baseball game. I didn’t before reading the reaction to that joke. Moreover, it was more a joke about A-Rod being a man-slut. Jesus, why does American public hate fun so much?

  50. Wrong. There was a photo sent all over the place of Rudy, Sarah, and Willow at the game. Either way, it was not funny, and not a goof on A-Rod. That’s some weak excuse-making.

  51. Odd. I didn’t see that picture probably because I only read the news, not pseudo-celebrity gossip that has nothing to do with how the world is actually functioning.

    Anyhow, what excuse? There is no need to make an excuse. I’m defending comedy and the first amendment. This country likes to forget that it exists when they don’t agree with something said. I don’t want to even compare Letterman to Lenny Bruce, but you people are on some moral witch-hunt. Like the saying goes “those who can be offended should be.”

    P.S. That joke was still better than 90% of anything Dane Cook, Carlos Mencia or the Larry the Cable Guy has ever crapped out/stolen.

  52. Your 1st Amendment argument is unserious. The government isn’t abridging Dave’s speech, and those (like me) speaking out about it are exercising theirs. As for Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, et al, those guys did TV, too, and knew where to draw the line when they did.

  53. JD, your comment reminds me of what I used to have to explain to 2nd graders… when it’s a ‘joke’ everybody laughs. Interestingly, I’ll bet that Letterman’s comment made in school as a peer would label him as a bully and he’d be sent home. LOL

    JD did it ever occur to you that when the national dialogue is this vulgar that more than a few of our best and brightest women (and men) would decide not to expose their family to it?

    Second hand information… Some time back I believe L tried to make a joke about Obama something wherein the punch line was, “…a black cat in the Whitehouse.” That was booed by L’s self-selecting audience. No jokes about an adult political figure holding a lightening rod position but a governor can be referred to as a “slut” and her children targeted? What “fun.”

    I personally like Palin. I was getting ready to get out of my car to shop when her acceptance speech came on the radio. I stayed and listened past store closing. I thought her’s was the only authentic American voice I heard in the whole campaign. But she is a creationist and creationists have, in my mind, no place on the national level.

    Lenny Bruce pushed societal limits but he was never so desperate as to skewer anyone’s children for a “laugh” although I’d give a dollar to hear what Lenny would have said to Letterman after hearing the comment.

  54. […] “apology.”  To sum up Tommy’s position (with a bit of conflation): Dave’s a statutory rapist: Letterman’s attacks were made in an exponentially larger, broader forum, and included the […]


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