Letterman ‘Apologizes,’ Right Continues to Overreach

Just a quick update to yesterday’s Letterman story.  Dave issued a bullshit, completely inadequate apology in which he cops to not knowing the difference between Bristol and Willow Palin, with the inference that Bristol Palin is fair(er) game.  He still thinks Sarah Palin is “slutty.”  Letterman also reads Sarah and Todd Palin’s respective “Whoomp! There it is!” statements, so I won’t re-print them.

Unfortunately, the right continues to overreach in hanging this on “the Left.”  Melissa Clouthier and I had a little back-and-forth about this yesterday, but Conservatives4Palin ratchets it up:

I’m sorry. I have seen the Palins treated heartlessly in the past, but that video is just too much. The audience is laughing about a cruel joke made about someone’s 14-year-old daughter.

This is “hope” and “change”?

Yeah, Barack Obama is to blame for David Letterman, who’s been doing TV since Obama was 8 years old.  Or something.

I said all I had to about this yesterday, but here’s a review:

Now, I need you all to stay with me here while I make a small distinction.  There are some who would try to hang Letterman’s attack on “the Left.” I’ll get to “the Left” in a minute, but Letterman is no more a liberal, in the political “team sports” sense of the word, than Guy Cimbalo is.  They are not conservatives, but they are also basically apolitical.  Their words are owned by a popular culture that is hostile to conservatism, but also to liberal ideals (of feminism as well as others).  They are a third column.

Bill Maher is a guy who straddles the line between the Left and pop culture.  As a liberal, I don’t claim ownership for what he says, but there is a clear argument to be made in favor of this.   When he makes “retard” jokes about Sarah Palin, which I’ve heard him do frequently, he deserves nothing but scorn from all sides.

This is where the Left comes in.  While they might not own what these entertainers say, they do have a duty to dis-own, a duty born of their desire to condemn Mel “Sugar-tits” Gibson et al, a duty that I’ve found them shirking for the most part.  Instead, the tendency is to engage in “Yeahbut.”  You know, “Yeah, but x conservative said y horrible thing…” (a curious exercise that essentially lets people you view as scumbags set your boundaries for you), to excuse it, or to ignore it altogether.  It is here that the Left takes ownership.

And my response to Melissa Clouthier:

Also coincidentally, Melissa Clouthier advanced an extremely relevant hypothesis earlier today which illustrates how some will handle the Von Brunn/Wright coincidence.  The subject was the Left’s “ownership” of David Letterman, et al, in response to something I wrote this morning:

I include them with the Left, Tommy, and for one simple reason: how they vote. They vote Democrat. Every. Single. Time. They are on the Left. Like the major media organizations, they like to pretend at “being above” or “transcending” party affiliation. Bull crap. They are Democrats. They vote Democrat. They’re the Left.

Now, where does that leave Wright and Von Brunn?  While their actions are, by no means, equivalent, Wright’s comment betrays a bigotry toward Jews that would seem right at home in Von Brunn’s repertoire.  But, put to Clouthier’s voting booth test, how do we divvy these two up?

The answer is, we don’t.  If we do, we do so at our own peril.  While we waste time playing “pin the tail on the ideology,” we distract from the real enemies of freedom, who reside neither on the Right nor the Left, but beneath them.


  1. I don’t blame the left for Dave’s comments. However, I want to blame them for largely defending his comments. Letterman carries water for Obama, but that isn’t the issue here. Letterman went too far in attacking Palin’s kids and people shouldn’t be defending him. Sadly, many of those I see defending Letterman are on the left. I’m not going to paint the entire left with that brush, because there are some who are calling Letterman on his BS. But I wish those on the left who are correctly criticizing Letterman were the rule rather than the exception.

  2. I agree with many of your points, however it’s disheartening that women’s organizations that are mainly fueled & funded by the left are silent on this issue. Hillary, a women’s libber, doesn’t stand up for another politically active woman no matter what her beliefs. How is Sarah Palin “slutty”? Isn’t the left’s argument that she has a RIGHT to be slutty if she chooses? I have yet to hear any jokes targeted at Obama from Letterman although he’s our sitting President, yet he continues to make jokes aimed directly at the right, even Bush who he attacked daily during his tenure. Anyone taking count on how many jokes are aimed at the right vs. left? Maybe a few Pelosi & Biden jokes have slipped in, but Obama seems unscathed. This is where Letterman fails at being “apolitical”.

  3. More misunderstanding of comedians and the profession. Dave told it like he should have, his inference was never about Willow Palin. It was about the “knocked up” one Bristol who AGAIN is and has been exploited by her parents. The defense of this woman is quite silly to be honest and the “Left” to Letterman connection is absurd. He missed on a joke that is it. Not a big deal, it happens, if the “Left” jumped on every Dennis Miller FAIL imagine the response from the Right.

    She dresses with the boots, primps herself like a beauty queen and winks at the camera as if it is not an insult to hard working women and mothers. She is a farce of her own rhetoric. Did she ever apologize for the hate she heard at rallies? To this day she won’t call abortion extremists the same as terrorists, but then I realize who defends her will not either. If you dish it out then you have to be able to take it.

    Your response though is great regarding Clouthier.


  4. Tommy –

    I think it is cool that you are calling Dave out on both the offense and the lameness of his apology. However, you cannot fault the right for overreaching when blaming the left for mere comments (scuzzy though they may be) when the left regularly overreaches by blaming the right for things like murder.

    Politics, as you well know, is tit for tat.

  5. Actually, I can, and do. Read my posts for the last couple of days.

  6. OH yes we can blame the Right for murder…its YOUR right talking heads that keep fanning the flames of hate.

    I don’t hear it from the left, in fact, I don’t recall talk like this from the left.

    It is what it is, Splash.

    The right peddels hate for the most part, and until the masses stand up to the likes of Rush and company…it will remain as such.

  7. por favor,
    david letterman made a joke about palin’s illegitimate grandchild’s mother and neoclowns who egged on and defend a security guard’s murderer are now trying to pretend that they think letterman was making cracks at palin’s underage spawn.
    fck republicans, everyone else has.
    in other news: chastity bono is getting a sex change operation.

  8. Tommy, Michelle (and you too Louie)

    I did read your posts and yes yo can, but you are yourselves hypocritical overreachers. That was my point.; it makes you look bad whether you realize it or not, when you engage in the overreaching yourselves.

    And Michelle, “my” talking heads are not more responsible for the acts of a madman and just because you can find a pack of wolves to hang with and join in your overreaching doesn’t make it so. It make make your attacking more comfortable for you [strength in numbers], but you should feel very uneasy with the err. I bet you are in the pack guilty of the biggest overreach of all: that we either brought 9/11 on ourselves, that it was all W’s fault or maybe even that it was an inside job, no?

    Personally I don’t care what you all do to the right, especially the Religious Right; they can all go to hell. I’m just trying to help out.

  9. duhhhhhh………etc., palin is a public figure who smoked pot, got pregnant-then got married, then became a joke of a religious right politician while videos of her african witch doctor exorcism graced the public airways, not to mention being a candidate for vice president who advocated more centralization of power even though she said she didn’t know what the office of vice president was about = fair game, along with her entire family circus.
    the woman is like an unending LSD trip and should be driven from serious political discourse.
    re:9-11, long time bush friend and speechwriter (clark gold?/something like that) over 4 years ago gave an interview where he said that the NeoCons in the republican party did toy with the idea of an attack on the united states that they could blame on Iraq so as to have a pretext for invasion (they got the idea from the LBJ Gulf of Tonkin scam),
    but were genuinely surprised when al quaeda beat them to it.
    so NO, 9-11 wasn’t an inside job.

  10. Louie –

    They are all fair game. All politicians, “along with [their] entire family circus” are subject to scrutiny. Even The Big O put his kids “out there” on TV in an interview. Your hatred for the other side of the ailse is no better (but no worse) than the accusations of hatred you hurl (love the double entendre there) their way.

    Re 9/11 (and America in general), Louie, you are a bonehead as usual. An interesting bonehead, to be sure, but a bonehead non the less.

  11. I’m not the one who thought saddam attacked on 9-11 because he had wmd’s.
    nice try anyway.

  12. Niether am I. So what’s your point?

  13. *sigh*

    Keep it up, Tommy. You’re on the right side of history. Feminists appreciate the solidarity, and if only Dems understood how much they’re undermining themselves by owning this, they’d perhaps find a strategic reason to stop hating on women so openly. I’ve given up entirely thinking that they’ll do it because it’s the right thing. But dammit, guys, why is it so hard to understand that fun as it is to slam women because we’re just so icky and dumb, by doing this you’re handing votes over to people who will leap at the opportunity to screw you.


    David Letterman’s hate is as old as some ancient Hebrew prophets.
    Speaking of anti-Semitism, it’s Jerry Falwell and other fundy leaders who’ve gleefully predicted that in the future EVERY nation will be against Israel (an international first?) and that TWO-THIRDS of all Jews will be killed, right?
    Wrong! It’s the ancient Hebrew prophet Zechariah who predicted all this in the 13th and 14th chapters of his book! The last prophet, Malachi, explains the reason for this future Holocaust that’ll outdo even Hitler’s by stating that “Judah hath dealt treacherously” and “the Lord will cut off the man that doeth this” and asks “Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?”
    Haven’t evangelicals generally been the best friends of Israel and Jewish persons? Then please explain the recent filthy, hate-filled, back-stabbing tirades by David Letterman (and Sandra Bernhard) against a leading evangelical named Sarah Palin, and explain why most Jewish leaders have seemingly condoned Palin’s continuing “crucifixion”!
    While David and Sandra are tragically turning comedy into tragedy, they are also helping to speed up and fulfill the Final Holocaust a la Zechariah and Malachi, thus helping to make the Bible even more believable!
    (For even more stunning information, visit MSN and type in “Separation of Raunch and State” and “Bible Verses Obama Avoids.”)

  15. Is that like “The Malachi Crunch?” Let the pigeons loose!

  16. I see you got spammed by tim (post above)
    I deleted the sucker.

  17. If Sarah keeps engaging comedians for fueds, can we just go ahead and book her on Springer?
    If she wants her family to be treated as though they have some sort of class, she should dismiss this as a bad joke and move on.
    Even suggesting that Willow is at risk by Dave is laughable, and only demonstrates how classless the Palins are. Then to throw in talk about rape is just nonsense.

    I’m starting to believe that Bristol’s baby daddy is really being harrassed.

  18. agreed sekaonblogger, equal rights for women mean that they can be objects of ridicule just like male politicians and celebrities.
    we had put women on pedastals for centuries so they wouldn’t have to stand in the muck with the rest of us.

  19. quick, call spell check .

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  21. […] a new, inevitable twist in the David Letterman-Gate joke scandal. Alan Colmes notes that Dave’s late-night rival, Jay Leno, told his own underage Palin […]

  22. King….yer livelinkie don’t work. How annoying.

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  24. […] I don’t agree that Letterman should be fired, but I can see how it would be galling to see him receive a boost from this.  Fair or not, I think Dave went from villain to victim when the right continued to press the Willow Palin angle even after Letterman had clarified. […]

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